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Production for episodes of his nbc show, which i believe has something to do with firing people, which i further believe is not the best imagery to carry into a presidential campaign during the highest unemployment rates of the 21st century. joining me now, washington editor of mother jones, politics daily columnist and msnbc analyst, david corn. thanks for joining us. >> good evening, lawrence. >> david, is it politically wise for tim pawlenty to so clearly divorce himself from the birther movement? >> well, i think it shows that tim pawlenty has a set of principles. he is willing to pander t...

Until he has to go back into production for episodes of his nbc show, which i believe has something to do with firing people, which i further believe is not the best imagery to carry into a presidential campaign during the highest unemployment rates of the 21st century. joining me now, washington editor of mother jones, politics daily columnist and msnbc analyst, david corn. thanks for joining us. >> good evening, lawrence. >> david, is it politically wise for tim pawlenty to so clearly divorce himself from the birther movement? >> well, i think it shows that tim pawlenty has a set of principl...

Of the attack and not knowing if there would be five other attacks, listen to what they said. my instinct, which is good and bad is to run to the scene of the -- i remember when there was first anthrax was found in new york a month later. it was at nbc. and the first thing i rushed up there. >> you rushed towards the anthrax? why would you do that, rudy? >> my staff used to then tease me and say oh, gee, we have a little more anthrax. why don't we rush there, why don't we rush here? why don't we rush there. >> but isn't it very, very important in the modern media age when everyone is looking f...

First anthrax was found in new york a month later. it was at nbc. and the first thing i rushed up there. >> you rushed towards the anthrax? why would you do that, rudy? >> my staff used to then tease me and say oh, gee, we have a little more anthrax. why don't we rush there, why don't we rush here? why don't we rush there. >> but isn't it very, very important in the modern media age when everyone is looking for figureheads and leaders to emerge. >> i think so. >> i can remember. i was in a newsroom of the daily mirror in england which i was the editor of, and i remember in the chaos seeing you...

>> i think so. >> i can remember. i was in a newsroom of the daily mirror in england which i was the editor of, and i remember in the chaos seeing you appearing. and it was comforting that somebody was taking charge of this. and the message going out was america will not be beaten by this. >> i believe that. that's my view. there are other ways to look at it. there are people who criticized me for rushing down there. i could have been killed. the key significant people in the city could have been killed. it wasn't the best place from which to manage it. for me it was. i wrote about this in my ...