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>> they are faced with dealing with inmates that are just irrational, that are dangerous, that are impatient, that will do violent, nasty things. >> one of the officers' toughest problems has been joe sears, who has been locked up for more than 20 years on a rape conviction. >> joe sears was part of the aryan brotherhood. one of the big boys in that faction, let's say. >> joe sears was arrogant. he had something to prove. no problem getting in your face at any time. >> he has not adapted well to the lockup setting. the system has made him very hard. >> this place, what it does is it builds up ...

That are impatient, that will do violent, nasty things. >> one of the officers' toughest problems has been joe sears, who has been locked up for more than 20 years on a rape conviction. >> joe sears was part of the aryan brotherhood. one of the big boys in that faction, let's say. >> joe sears was arrogant. he had something to prove. no problem getting in your face at any time. >> he has not adapted well to the lockup setting. the system has made him very hard. >> this place, what it does is it builds up a lot of frustration and anger and stuff in you because of the environment that you've bee...

Aren't following this as closely as everyone in washington and everyone in the media is following this, the president has said there are relatively narrow differences between both sides. how relatively narrow are these differences? what are we talking about here? >> just to give you a little context. on sunday and monday, i would told by sources negotiating they were about $8 billion or $10 billion apart. we're talking about trillions of dollars and 8 billion is not that much. that's not so much the issue. it's what are they going to cut? what programs, what agencies are they going to cut? tha...

So what happens is, they come in and pay a wholesale price and those kids are transited to places like the bahamas or to the democratic republic of congo, into america or europe. >> larry: so they're slaves? >> that's correct. most of them end up in sex slavery. >> larry: david, what specifically does beyond borders do? >> larry, i'm going to tell you that, but let me correct something that aaron said. the vast majority of children who are sent into servitude are sent by their parents. they're not sold. i don't know of any hatian parents who sell their children. i'm sure that there are a few c...

Their children away to the cities out of desperation and out of false hope that they'll find a better life in the city. and so a lot of what we invest in is education programming through the radio, through adult education programs, adult literacy, so that these parents understand the risks they're children face if sent to the cities. >> larry: annie, are there enough resources on the ground to safeguard children? >> well, there's more coming. and save the children is working hard to make that happen. you know, the thing is is that you have to take the wholistic approach, is what's been said. y...