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Transactions. what happens is when you have a sprawling fbi investigation looking at wealthy international business people, the fbi is not going on ignore other crimes they come upon. i'm going to be very careful how they say this. no one has been charged. but what we've seen so far is, for example, mike flynn failing to disclose half a million dollars paid to lobby on behalf of the government of turkey. that doesn't seem in collusion with russia but it seems other jeopardy. we know that mike flynn and paul manafort are involved. so it is a criminal investigation, also a counter intelligence i...

>> some people who have been through it before do and probably should. there's an element of trying to get to the bottom of it. >> from inside. >> from inside tries to understand what happens, what do we know, what don't we know? with that, especially when there's a story about a person of interest, you do start to worry about the person next to you and worry about who in t is start to smt. that breaks down communication. you start to worry about who you're talking to, am i going to put myself in any jeopardy even though i might have the best intentions in terms of trying to help out and get t...

Paul ryan, of course, speaker of the house, largely saying the same thing and echoing those comments. you know, whether or not this gives new life to it, i don't know. i still think it is even given everything that's happened over the course of the last three weeks or three months or four months since the inauguration, it's still going to -- it's such an outrageous claim and such a semiplausible explanation from mccarthy and ryan that i think the people are still kind of staying away from that, to be honest with you, nicolle. >> mike, thank you so much. jen palmie ari, not outrageous those on ...