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Of the arguments going forward is what evidence is admissible and what can't be admitted because of torture. it's one of the reasons why the family members of victims of 9/11, some of whom were here in the gallery observing events, are unlikely to get a resolution in this case soon. people often ask, is there an end in sight? and for a long, long time there was not even a middle in sight. but now we are in the middle of the case, wrestling with the question of what effect torture has on the admissibility of statements is really the heart of the case. and so mistakes of the past are having a be...

17 have never been charged, but will remain in prison for life, because they are deemed a security threat. the other ten are still waiting trial. they include five men accused of involvement in the 9/11 attacks. well, for the first time in more than 18 months, those five men were inside a court room. we couldn't film it, but we were in the gallery, just through the glass, just feet away from those defendants, including at the very front there with the ginger beard, khalid sheikh mohammed, the man who it is believed conceived of the idea of 9/11 and took that idea to 0sama bin laden. but the pr...

We couldn't film it, but we were in the gallery, just through the glass, just feet away from those defendants, including at the very front there with the ginger beard, khalid sheikh mohammed, the man who it is believed conceived of the idea of 9/11 and took that idea to 0sama bin laden. but the proceedings themselves were extremely slow. people often ask is there an end in sight? and for a long, long time there wasn't even a middle in sight. but now, we are in the middle of the case, because wrestling with the question of what effect torture has on the admissibility of statements is really the...

For the first time in more than 18 months, those five men were inside a court room. we couldn't film it, but we were in the gallery just through the glass, just feet away from those defendants, including, at the very front, with the ginger beard, khalid sheikh mohammed, the man who it is believed conceived of the idea of 9/11, and took that idea to 0sama bin laden. but the proceedings themselves were extremely slow. people often ask, is there an end in sight, and for a long time there wasn't even a middle in sight. now we are in the middle of the case, because wrestling with the question of wh...

People often ask, is there an end in sight, and for a long time there wasn't even a middle in sight. now we are in the middle of the case, because wrestling with the question of what effect torture has on the admissibility of statements is really the heart of the case. but that's where things are stuck. all the while, the family members of those killed on 9/11 wait for resolution. and the detention centre here looks no closer to shutting down. aleem maqbool, bbc news. over the past few days here, some of the family members of victims of the 9/11 attacks, they have been observing legal proceedi...