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Unholy alliance of corrupt democrat politicians, deep state bureaucrats and the fake news media. there they are right there. for the last three years democrat lawmakers, their deep state cronies, the fake news media, they've pin colluding in their effort to overturn the presidential election. then you have the deep state. we're getting rid of a lot of them. i'll tell you, we're finding them left and right. >> president trump who never previously served in public office or in the military of course is known to demand personal loyalty which most career public servants aren't willing to offer him...

Acknowledging reality. i mean, if you look at the starting with the whistle-blower complaint and the partial transcript released and the witnesses coming forward, it's clear he was telling the truth at this press conference. that there was this organized effort led by rudy giuliani and then, you know, endorsed enthusiastically by the president that said, look. we are not giving this taxpayer money to the government of ukraine unless they help us with our political interest. and investigate our opponents. i mean, that's what happened. and mulvaney, you know, sort of blurted that out. and then, ...

To fight in the political arena. but when you turn to the political arena, they are not really putting out any sort of consistent message there. and that's been frustrating to republicans on the hill to people outside the white house who want to support the president. and so what our reporting shows is that there's an effort led by jared kushner and mick mulvaney to try to sort of carve out a messaging strategy that basically has a carveout for the president because he can't be relied upon to put out a consistent message. he's all over the place. you saw that with his comments yesterday on chi...

Amplified the message they wanted to get donald trump elected president. are they doing it now? yes, they are. but they're now using other techniques including more use of humans and you have people in the united states who like russia's message and are assisting them. >> you get a sense they're ahead of the game? >> as far as this goes? >> malcolm? >> yes, they're very far ahead of the game, and we're far behind the game, the problem is, that we know the united states was attacked in 2016, it's not meddling, it was a political warfare, cyber warfare attack, which went after the fundaments of ...

Because you were part of the national security council, i believe from 2017 to 2018. how would you actually describe how the trump administration's calculation is with iran, at least from a strategy standpoint? what are they betting on? >> sure. so, i came into the administration, or at least the national security council, in 2017 on the counterterrorism side. so, i was not part of the middle east sort of side or the team that ran the middle east strategy to include the iran strategy. but from what i recall at that time, the administration wanted to increase pressure on iran in a different way...