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Fact that the churches are headed up by women. female pastors head up the congregations and the threats were not racial low motivated. >> church behind you what's left of it. a fir there 20 years ago that burned that church as well. what are local religious political leaders on the scene there in greeleyville telling you about how they feel emotionally given everything that's happened? >> they have been devastated by this wolf. one local official told us this is a punch to the gut. the local mayor said he has an ill feeling. they revere the church because of what happened 20 years agecht it wa...

Joining us is a professor at george mason university and a former professor at ucla. so you were at ucla for a few years. did you see a lot of racism there? >> almost none. i've been at six universities. ucla is definitely the most progressive. the -- has the least racist attitudes of any of those universities. yet, has the most claims of racism i think of any of those six. people are just walking on egg shells. >> we're going to put a graphic that shows the ethnicity. 33% asian. 27% white. why would they decide giving those numbers which are terrific, they got to have a diversity class? >> pa...

Holiest day of the year for christians, it drove me crazy. but yet he's walking on egg shells around islamics. why the anger? >> i don't think it's anger. he's a christian. i think the issue here is that he wants to avoid making it out that the united states is engaged in a religious war against islam. for me and you, i think there is a real importance for -- to hear somebody say you know what? the other day in kenya, 150 young people were killed because they were christian. we see christians killed in libya because they were singled out as christian. but these muslim terrorists and vigilantes...

The lighter footprint. >> they adjusted that. remember they were going to pull out faster, more troops. they've agreed to keep about as many troops as their military advisers wanted to. i do think there's a kind of adjustment. i don't know what they do in places like yemen where they're literally falling out and had to pull out their counterterrorism troops. they are adjusting and the footprint is getting a little less light. >> george, i was also struck by president obama's statement this week about the terror attack in kenya. he condemns a terror attack quote, where innocent men and women we...

The lighter footprint. >> they adjusted that. remember they were going to pull out faster, more troops. they've agreed to keep about as many troops as their military advisers wanted to. i do think there's a kind of adjustment. i don't know what they do in places like yemen where they're literally falling out and had to pull out their counterterrorism troops. they are adjusting and the footprint is getting a little less light. >> george, i was also struck by president obama's statement this week about the terror attack in kenya. he condemns a terror attack quote, where innocent men and women we...