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Also happens to be the host of "the oath" with chuck rosenberg. latest episode features james comey. frank, in your professional opinion, what's it like to watch the president and putin again today? >> a couple thoughts, brian. first, every american who cares about national security should be deeply offended by the fact that the best our president could muster today was a joking admonition to putin to hey, don't interfere again and smile, joke. it's not funny. the security of our elections is not funny. observation number two. it's clear world leaders have figured president trump out. psycholo...

We have our president making a public invitation. and you've made the point the north koreans and their leader crave relevance. this makes them relevant in the eyes of the world. >> sure. yeah. president trump's actually going to north korea and getting nothing in return. and brian, i wouldn't agree that kim jong-un is swooning over mr. trump. he may not be able to believe his good fortune, but he probably is confused as to what's going on. but clearly blandishments, ego stroking of kim jong-un won't have any impact whatsoever on his decision making. the best that could come out of this is ano...

Not funny. observation number two. it's clear world leaders have figured president trump out. psychologically assessed him and figured out you can manipulate and drive his conduct through ego stroking. in a clip earlier you could see putin mirroring the posture of trump. putin has straight posture. he's leaning over, shoulders slouched as trump often does. that helps trump feel comfortable but feels like he's aligned and allied with putin. our foreign policy is essentially being driven and manipulated by how well you can stroke this president's ego. >> frank, that's psych 101. job candidates a...

The people that he has surrounded himself with, i think tim is exactly right. the supply is limited. a lot of people who would ordinarily want to work in a white house scurry away. also people who want to be surrounded by sycophants and want the adoring cabinet meeting and the ego stroking he basks in. and if you are not wanting to do that, he is hiring for the stroking. and if you are not willing to do that, he doesn't want you around him >> the guy who ran for president in 2016, a lot of people would argue he was in position because of the apprentice. the eye for talent and all that sort of ...

President if you can make a grand gesture. in this case sorted starbursts, you might win over the president through ego stroking what you couldn't win over through other negotiation. >> i don't think that brown nosing the president is the proper way for a member of congress to engage the president. you know, the congress is a quo equal branch of government. we're not lesser than the president. together the congress is a coequal branch of government. and we should not have to suck up to the president to get him to do his job, which is to analyze policy and to either sign or not sign legislation...