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Public isn't aware of how many cases there actually are and what's going on, donald trump isn't going to be able to get anywhere with it. >> and, eileen, in your situation, we talk sometimes about the status, illegal, legal. sometimes people will argue, hey, that's not really a cogent part of the discussion. but what's your perspective? what are your thoughts? >> well, i think his citizenship status has a lot to say ability policy implications going forward and how we handle these things. it's really important. so as far as policy going forward, we definitely need to look at these cases and in...

That. a lot of new angel moms will be there. people who previously didn't get their story out because they were wrapped up in legal proceedings and things like that. so it would be very informative for sure. in addition to that, wanting to see further legislation to make sure that these people who are committing heinous acts are deported. >> cathy. >> i agree with eileen. not all the lawmakers out there are against anything going on. there are some very good ones. there are two state representatives, two state senators that are helping with our case. and then also senator tom cotton has joined...

>> demetri was my first child. he was incredible, fully formed, ten fingers, ten toes, had my nose, had my husband's hair and chin. fit from elbow to fingertip. that's how big he was when i got to hold him before giving him up to omi. he was greatly anticipated by my family. it was one of the first babies that we had had in decades. and he's sorely missed by his family. >> thank you for sharing your stories. i want to each give you one more chance. if you want to say something to people who serve in congress, who are our public policy makers, let's start with you, eile eileen, first, and then ...

God bless those men and women. >> yeah. >> i agree. >> it's so true. cathy, eileen, i want to give you just each a moment, but tell us about your loss and how you want us to remember your -- how do you want us to remember hayley, for instance? >> hayley was the youngest of four children. she was always happy, laughing, loved everybody. she was hard of hearing and she could play music beautifully. but there wasn't anybody in this world that hayley wouldn't have put her hand out to help if they needed it. and i just, you know, if anything could ever be considered good coming out of this, i'm hop...

My daughter should be here. eileen's son should be here. many, many, many other mothers and fathers. and it's going to be a lot more if we don't stop what's going on now. >> eileen, one of the public policy discussions people in congress are debating, you hear democrats say that we should get rid of i.c.e., that immigration customs enforcement should just be abolished. there's some that want more open borders. how do you react to that? >> i think i should start by saying that i'm not anti-immigrant. my grandfather came here to america in 1955 and became a citizen in 1960. but those who are com...