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To me, is particularly problematic because you are saying hey, let's abolished an agency that's really here to protect us. it's like me going on the southside of chicago and say no, i don't want any place in my community. no, they are here to prevent. from me possibly being harmed. i find this to be a view that is so draconian, any measure of moving our country forward. it is meant to divide us more. >> shannon: richard, let me ask you about the issue. there were warnings from democrats and the party saying not getting rid of i.c.e. it's going to seem too radical. you have people with an effig...

A number of different policies, but the fact of the matter is, what the real problem in my view, is we have an election. >> 2010. a group of members in the house of representatives and the senate were elected who hated the affordable care act and their total focus was repeal of the affordable care act, not fixing it, not making it work better. >> i understand that. you're right. enough in 2014, many in your party are saying -- they're divorcing are themselves from it but they're very nervous and they saw what happened to their colleagues who were up this year, and their memories, they're road ...