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Irregularitieses in all elections. i want to ask a specific question. do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? and continuing to make that charge, not having states do election reforms but specifically making this charge that the election was stolen. do you think that that hurts, undermines american democracy? >> well, chris, i've been very clear from the beginning. if you look at a number of states, they didn't follow state passed laws that governed the election for president. that's what the united states constitution says. they don't say that the states determine what th...

Elections. i want to ask a specific question. do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? and continuing to make that charge, not having states do election reforms but specifically making this charge that the election was stolen. do you think that that hurts, undermines american democracy? >> well, chris, i've been very clear from the beginning. if you look at a number of states, they didn't follow state passed laws that governed the election for president. that's what the united states constitution says. they don't say that the states determine what the rules are, they say st...

This is not going to be led by republicans. republicans are still afraid of trump or they're trying to ride trump's coat tails. we know that lindsey graham embraced trump when he ran for re-election. and he and mitch mcconnell backed off a little bit on january 6th after the insurrection. but that moment of bipartisanship has passed. one of the things i think we need to see is if democrats have to go it alone they have to blow up the filibuster to pass election reforms like requiring paper ballots, not things partisan, things that should help ensure fair election, setting the rules for you how...

Grade nut baggery, but maybe we need to take it seriously because something genuinely odd is happening on the right. ideas that would have been unthinkable are being normalized. this includes the explicit embrace of the idea of an american dictator. how do we break that? >> boy, i was with you until the last question. if i had a solution to it and shining light on it -- here is the important part of the election reforms. making sure the winners of elections win. because, you know, as disturbing and scary as it is about this increasing fascist authoritarian footsie people on the right are playi...

Of its kind in its class it's basically a replenishment oiler and now being called the john lewis class replenishment oiler and it's for combat logistics of the navy and a special time there. jacqui: sure, looks like quite a day there. and can't help, but think about the battle on capitol hill for the voting rights legislation as the democrats see it, as republicans see it, election reforms, a cause near and dear to the heart of john lewis. there was an ongoing discussion and pressure from civil rights activists to have democrats approve a carve-out of the filibuster which would exempt the vot...