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Think that's the hesitation. >> let me argue against that, though, as someone having followed texas politics fairly closely. part of the issue in texas, it's the second biggest state in the union, right? there's lots of -- like the democratic party there is so poorly hollowed out that a well-performing statewide candidate who does go everywhere does something to the strength of that party in that state. even a loss. even a loss of two or three points. you talk to people in texas politics and they say look, the energy of beto right now, the money he's being able to raise, is doing good things f...

National message on, say, russia or corruption or things like that. it's not getting talked about a ton on these local parts of the campaign trail. the bet is those voters that came about that know about that and are going to basically climb over hot coals to vote on election day -- >> because they want a do-over. >> that's sort of baked in. i want you guys o'stick around. i'm going to talk about the much harder climb democrats face this november as they try to take back the senate. done go anywhere. this wi-fi is fast.

There's a history of women either not showing up and actually voting, which is why women of color have been so pivotal. they've been doing get out the vote and going to the polls. that's one of the things that will be critical. >> so far in the primaries, a different population, the real big open question. one of the biggest open questions is, do those voters, particularly young women millennials, single mothers, single women, huge constituencies. >> i think it is outrage that will drive women to the ballot. i think them about particular, especially women of color, we've had enough. we've been...

And i think there are some people out there who are starting to really deploy that strategy. >> so two points there, right? one is the idea that things are -- that we are seeing a bunch of just events in the world that alter the map, which is chris collins and duncan hunter both got indicted. right? >> that helps. >> exactly. but the example being again, anything can happen. right? 15, 20 days ago those seats were not on anyone's map as possibilities. and then an indictment happened. right? so things can change very quickly in terms of exogenous events. but this idea about a strategy, the bat ...

>> yeah. i absolutely agree. and i think one of the things that this election is -- the midterm elections are going to pull out is that in fact this is not just a referendum on donald trump, although that is important, but it's also a referendum on what are the policies, what are the ideas, what are the agendas, what are the vision. so one of the things we've seen democrats do, particularly in the last couple of morksz is really try and articulate that message and that vision and not just appeal to these one other or what have you but instead say okay we're going to go after these voters that ...