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And frankly, you don't take a semiautomatic pistol to an assault weapons fight. you just can't do it. you have to upgrade your weaponry as well. >> you started with a .38. a special. believe it or not, i used to carry one of them when i was a capitol policeman. i was checked out. that is real escalation. i want to get back to mark on this. if you think about the way this thing has been fought, i'd fight it the way you are fighting it with the mayors, the pitch on television which is the good guys don't need these kind of guns. i mean, the bad guys don't need to keep them. they're the guns that...

We've used the shotgun in place for many years. we upgraded to a patrol rifle, an assault rifle with a magazine of about 30. in fact, i don't think there's any place where more than 30 in law enforcement for a number of reasons. but in baltimore county, we've had shootings at police officers using an assault weapon. and frankly, you don't take a semiautomatic pistol to an assault weapons fight. you just can't do it. you have to upgrade your weaponry as well. >> you started with a .38. a special. believe it or not, i used to carry one of them when i was a capitol policeman. i was checked out. t...

And frankly, you don't take a semiautomatic pistol to an assault weapons fight. you just can't do it. you have to upgrade your weaponry as well. >> you started with a .38. a special. believe it or not, i used to carry one of them when i was a capitol policeman. i was checked out. that is real escalation. i want to get back to mark on this. if you think about the way this thing has been fought, i'd fight it the way you are fighting it with the mayors, the pitch on television which is the good guys don't need these kind of guns. i mean, the bad guys don't need to keep them. they're the guns that...