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Them have the capability to strike the homeland. that's nine months away, a year away. if you're not doing much on sanctions and letting time pass, it means the chance of war would go up if you believe what trump is going to say. i hope that things work themselves out, but we do need to see more sanctions enforcement. by the way, shep, the north koreans can already strike the u.s. right now with an electromagnetic pulse device. they don't need guidance or heat shielding. the only two missing elements from what they have. they could do an emp attack on the u.s. and that would be devastating. it...

On that and understand this is a very vulnerable target. the trump administration has worked to elevate this threat. that's why they turned the cyber manned into a unified combatant command. there's the president's rhetoric but there's actions being taken to make the united states better defended against it. so all of that is good. again, we still have great vulnerabilities. the north koreans answer this is a vulnerability of the us and we expect they would target it. >> neil: rebecca, they're pretty sophisticated as this. you look at them as this backward country. do they have the wherewithal...

Obliterated overnight thanks to an electromagnetic pulse or emp. it's not just the stuff of television, north korea yesterday tested a rocket that american officials say could be intended for use of icbm and intercontinental ballistic missile. john moore is an electrical engineer, he says the korean missile could hit the u.s. with an apocalyptic emp attack. mr. moore joins us tonight to explain how that might happen then what it might mean. thanks for coming on. you hear things about emp, explained it for us if you could just in english, what is this? what would it do? how does it work? >> it ...

Hillary clinton and we all saw with the emails did. this is a clear case about the white house and the attorney general's office politicizing the entire issue. >> tucker: and that the fact is you just wind up believing nobody in any context. >> tucker: north korea's missile tests grab headlines all the time but nuclear bomb leveling set to mike seattle might not be the greatest interest from them. an engineer says that country could devastate the entire country with something called an emp attack, will explain that. now that he narrowly avoided going to prison, bill cosby has a new plan, he wa...

>> what the hell is going on? >> what cause the blackout, was it a solar flare, an >> tucker: that's a clip permit revolution on nbc, it's a show where modern society is obliterated overnight thanks to an electromagnetic pulse or emp. it's not just u the stuff of television, north korea yesterday tested a rocket that american officials say could be intended for use of icbm and intercontinental ballistic missile. john moore is an electricalic engineer, he says the korean missile could hit the u.s. with an apocalyptic emp attack. mr. moore joins us tonight to explain how that might happen then w...