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Joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> you were a navy s.e.a.l. for more than a decade. you have experience with the grid. what can you tell us about it? >> the power grid is an amazingly easy to dismantle. as a conventional warfare specialist, i was trained to dismantle and take down power grids in other countries. believe me, it doesn't take a doctorate from m.i.t. to figure out how to make an emp device to take down not only the substation, which is this right here, but the transmission stations and distribution stations. utilizing a cell phone device, remote firing device technology, c...

Joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> you were a navy s.e.a.l. for more than a decade. you have experience with the grid. what can you tell us about it? >> the power grid is an amazingly easy to dismantle. as a conventional warfare specialist, i was trained to dismantle and take down power grids in other countries. believe me, it doesn't take a doctorate from m.i.t. to figure out how to make an emp device to take down not only the substation, which is this right here, but the transmission stations and distribution stations. utilizing a cell phone device, remote firing device technology, c...

Joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> you were a navy s.e.a.l. for more than a decade. you have experience with the grid. what can you tell us about it? >> the power grid is an amazingly easy to dismantle. as a conventional warfare specialist, i was trained to dismantle and take down power grids in other countries. believe me, it doesn't take a doctorate from m.i.t. to figure out how to make an emp device to take down not only the substation, which is this right here, but the transmission stations and distribution stations. utilizing a cell phone device, remote firing device technology, c...

Issue. there are approximately three of us that have really taken the reins of the issue. >> congressman, tell me. >> the other two are no longer in congress. >> i'm here to help you. congressman, this is a statement that the department of defense responded to fox news when we asked about the dangers of an emp. what the department of defense said was the department is unaware of any increase in the threat of a deliberate destructive use of an emp device. further reporting to any of the contrary without current threat assessments is both reckless and irresponsible. congressman, we know the grid...

>> taken the helm. who are the three, congressman, tell me. >> the other two are no longer in congress. >> i'm here to help you. congressman, this is a statement that the department of defense responded to fox news when we asked about the dangers of an emp. what the department of defense said was the department is unaware of any increase in the threat of a deliberate destructive use of an emp device. further, any reporting to any of the contrary without current threat assessments is both reckless and irresponsible. congressman, we know the grids are unprotected. why aren't they doing something...