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Motivate their base of support at a time when the president needs all the sort of financial support and organizing support he can get. most people do think it's going to come down to the economy and where that goes over the next six months is what's going to matter. but for the obama campaign, it is very -- certainly a focus of theirs to sort of get out these people, get the base of support going and try to match that sort of groundswell they had four years ago. >> joe, your thoughts on that. >> i think part of that boils down to making a distinct difference between mitt romney and president o...

Romney to handle the economy. but when you ask them, which candidate do you like more, they are siding heavily with barack obama over mitt romney. and that's sort of an empathy gap i think you saw reflected at that picnic table and gets to the point you're making. which mitt romney has yet to figure out how to be relatable to people. but the you're not addressing the the fundamental concerns, that's more problematic. >> i think maybe the romney campaign maybe learned something from this, if you're going to sit down to people and listen to the problems, at least give them an idea of where you'r...

Specifically, want to know what a candidate is for. not just what he's against. and mitt romney has to outline exactly what platforms he's for. >> i will make the case that mitt romney doesn't understand their world. he hasn't lived in their world. he doesn't know their world, and he doesn't have any solution whatsoever. you put president obama in that position, he has got an answer for those folks. he, at least, gives them a game plan on what he is going to do to try to make it better, to alleviate things in that community. >> one quick thing -- >> and he would make a commitment to public edu...

>> i guess i'd parse it out this way which is to say that obama has a winning personality and he needs a message and romney has a winning message and he needs a personality. and i guess it's game on with santorum getting out yesterday as to the beginning of that tug of war on who wins. there's clearly an empathy gap. i mean, obama seems to win on that front understanding or at least being perceived to understand more one's hopes and dreams and romney has the message but it's a tug of war and it's going to be a long contest between here and november as that tug of war takes place on who -- whic...

Involved in real estate, who doesn't simply doesn't get that for most of us, our houses if we own a house, it's the only asset we own. and we invest our hopes and dreams in it. when people lose their homes, many of them are losing everything. and that's what's happened in this housing crisis. you've seen people slide back into poverty. you've seen african-americans and latino families lose most of their net worth after fighting so hard to gain it. so every time he opens his mouth on a topic like this, he does reveal a compassion deficit, an empathy gap that he just hasn't spent any time in the...