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Republicans are in charge. and donald trump when it comes to immigration, we've got the governor of texas outspoken on that issue, we have governor abbott speaking about immigration and opposing the obama administration policies. and another issue that governor rickets talked about, transgender bathrooms, texas was part of that lawsuit as well. and a lot more on the plate. what you can talk about the issue of how striking the energy difference is. cpac is year ago when it was in disarray and then candidate trump didn't show up. 17 possible candidates to pick from the straw poll was a mess, now...

Ryan as pawlenty and portman is of course from the midwest. and can help them in that key area because they've got to win at least two of the big midwestern states in order to make this happen. so the battle ground states are critical both midwestern states are crucial. and i guess when they add it up, there's a generational difference, there's an energy difference. he has great reputation for being smart, conservative. brings a lot of that energy and the conservative base with it. >> andrea, i want to look ahead to october 11 when we have the vice presidential debate, the lone one scheduled i...

>> nbc's jacob rascon joins me from maine at trump rally. jake, have you been there talking to supporters listening to what donald trump saying. seems he's hitting a different gear in the words he's using against hillary clinton but also an energy difference to be said as well. jacob? >> reporter: this is as defiant we've seen him. the fourth rally and also where he's addressed sexual assault. he doesn't deny it and let it go. he keeps going, attacking the accuser specifically and as well as you heard there talking about the ricked election. we've heard that argument before from trump. in fact...