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Have enforcement ability such as the epa does. >> should we change that? >> i think we should so they have better enforcement power, subpoena power, mandate a number of inspections and surprise inspections. and mandate fines. the fines are very low. it's easy for the company to pay the fine and forget about it. >> what do you make what i call arrogance by mr. abraham saying it's all about headlines and the press and politicians and they don't know what they're talking about. what a's your response to that? >> the mine companies had a free ride a long time. they didn't promote a safe workplace ...

Such as what president eisenhower did in the 1950s, increasing the number of temporary short-term a guest worker visas to channel these people into the legal market >> ed: you're telling me we have it improve the system since eisenhower to come up with a better way to better use border patrol agents if you actually send them to the border? >> in terms of the enforcement ability of the u.s. government on the border, it is a lot better than it used to be but there's also 20 times as many as there were during eisenhower's administration. >> ed: but you said in november, he wants to massively incr...