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Enforcement. >> so you think, that's interesting. your prediction is there will be a spike in arrests at the beginning as everyone says, i'm being monitored. if i pulled over, i have to go through with the arrest because that will justify the stop as opposed to letting them go and someone's going to second-guess me. but you think that will come back down over time? >> i believe so. i think initially what will happen in many of these pilot cases is that the police officers who are wearing the body cameras want to make sure they justify their existence. so they will necessarily increase their en...

Enforcement. >> so you think, that's interesting. your prediction is there will be a spike in arrests at the beginning as everyone says, i'm being monitored. if i pulled over, i have to go through with the arrest because that will justify the stop as opposed to letting them go and someone's going to second-guess me. but you think that will come back down over time? >> i believe so. i think initially what will happen in many of these pilot cases is that the police officers who are wearing the body cameras want to make sure they justify their existence. so they will necessarily increase their en...

Clearly a law enforcement professional should know the difference between the level of suspicion needed to chase someone and a level of suspicion required to arrest them. and that is probably cause across the board. but when you allow, when you expect and when you accept shortcuts around the law, when you give too much leeway to police agencies and police officers under the guise that they're all noble and well meaning, then the result is tragedy. so the professional -- the level of professional standards have diminished greatly in large part due to the national trend away from a public servic...

Individual who's awarded it posthumously, first grade is the highest detective grade that can be achieved and really it's a tribute to not only the life that the person led but the service to the city and to the department that they gave. >> there have been calls as i know you're aware for departments to be more reflective of the communities that they police. so what kind of a difference, marquez, could that make in the way the public views officers on the streets? >> i'll be honest with you. i think more significant than complexion change in department is what's being called for in a lot of t...

Term "accountability" is not synonymous with punishment. it is not an outcome. we can't guarantee equal outcome. but we can guarantee equal process. that's what it suggest, they're answerable as public servants and during that process we'll find out what the outcome is going to be. it is then that punishment may or may not attach. and the structure in which that happens is one fraught with political, social legal and economic contexts. >> marcus let me come to you on that. you heard the response from jon at the table. what's your response? >> well clearly, there is a culture within law enforce...