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Not. we should not treat people that are here in violation of a federal immigration law differently. we shouldn't exempt any category so if you're here illegal to include those people who have deportation orders of removal to include families, there has to be consequences. we have to enforce the law. griff: what's so significant about that is they're moving into enforcement operations is the next phase because before even this surge, you're dealing with an unprecedented number of central americans, who have remained in the country. i.c.e. pointed out to me this morning in a conversation that 9...

How do you explain yourself to take a position so critical of a really important function for the government? >> so, democrats believe in border security. customs and borders actually in charge of border security. i.c.e. was created in 2003, specifically with an anti-terrorism mission. their job, after 9/11, was to make sure that we don't have cross border terrorism, to deal with human trafficking, to deal with drug trafficking, weapons trafficking, and unfortunately, as 19 i.c.e. agents actually wrote in a letter, because of the family separations at the border, it has so destroyed i.c.e.'s r...

This individual in massachusetts whose probably some sort of basement socio path trying to find something to do with his life. i with have no doubt in my mind he's part of the antifa group that are out to stop i.c.e. just based on the enforcement operations that i.c.e. is doing not that he had any interaction whatsoever with i.c.e. just the mere fact that i.c.e. is doing their job and the thing is it's by the democratic leaders like c uomo and nixon and these other individuals that are calling for abolishment of i.c.e. and not only that calling to prosecute i.c.e. for doing their jobs it's out...

Maybe there's wiggle room. it looks bad because of what trump has said in the past, pressuring and badgering sessions about recusing him on russia. >> it feels like you're possibly inviting the president to labby you. >> yeah. i mean, it's going to put sessions in an unbelievable uncomfortable position because i mean, donald trump we know he called cohen the next day. he's not going to be able to control himself from asking sessions what's going on. the other point worth making here is you know, now that this is in the southern district of new york, i realize this is an extremely high profile ...

York has high profile cases all the time. >> yes, they do. >> worldcom, martha stewart it, terrorism investigations. there are certain consultation requirements for example, they consulted with the office of enforcement operations on the search warrant. that's something you have to do anytime you're seeking a search warrant for a lawyer. they don't have to consult with the attorney general on really much of anything. now, again, it's high profile. they might want to. he may want to have a some say. at the end of the day, most of the calls in this case should come from the southern district of ...