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Can work out it's your responsibility. and that's got to be frustrating. >> it is. brian: these people are nice people in many cases. they have individual stories. that is not the story. >> that's true, brian. i'm a father. most of them have families. this tugs at anybody's heart strings. this is really a humanitarian piece. but from an enforcement perspective, while we are standing here right now, there are people that want to get away from us just a couple miles up river. brian: you are a parent? >> i am a parent. brian: you know that cough. >> absolutely. brian: he needs some medicine. >> t...

Information what would you want to ask the suspect if you were able to question he or she. we don't know the details of the suspect. what would you want to ask? >> well, obviously from the law enforceme enforceme enforcement perspective we are not looking at that. it doesn't solve everything. it helps us understand why something happened so we can get in front of the next one. we are look at a scene that she described there. i think it is important to understand we have got to be very cautious because reports, you know, the facts and ak cure si, that is usually the first casualty, getting repo...

That people talk about with a federal election commission violation is that they're often not pursued and they're often not, they don't have strict penalties. you have said, i know in march when you were talking to us at nbc, you said the fec is understaffed, particularly from an enforcement perspective. >> yes. it is understaffed, absolutely. and that was purposeful. but there are other reasons why matters are not enforced and that's because there's a stalemate on the fec because investigate something or to regulate many of the violations go unpunished. and actually even not investigated. but...