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Being put through. but they're doing that because they know that the u.s. border is open. and so the biden administration is sending them the signal to take that dangerous journey, and i think that's wrong. it certainly needs to change. look, whether you have the secretary of state, the dhs secretary and the attorney general down there in mexico talking about hopefully security and border security, but i notice that they're also talking about a whole host of other issues, these are talks that happen in any administration that happen all the time. the question though is what is changing on that...

Alejandro mayorkas needs to be removed. he is the secretary of homeland security. his actions or his inactions has caused our homeland to be less secure than ever has been. i worked for him when he was deputy secretary. he knows how to stop this crisis. we stopped it we built detention centers. we held people. we have consequences, deterrence. we had enforcement posture. we removed people. and we shut it down. he is doing the complete opposite by releasing people. not removing people. and not seeing a judge. so, he has purposefully either taken orders from the white house to ignore his respons...

Approach? >> so i think at the department we are going after the financing of these transnational criminal organizations. weave look at the enforcement posture that we have with the government of mexico. our partnership there has increased under president trump's leadership. we are also signing a number of agreements with our central american partners. the border security agreements. biometric agreements again that are stopping these dangerous cartels at their source. and then we have a number of agreements and policies in place should they actually get to our southern border that, again, is s...

Decree that we talked about extensively from a few years ago that only allows you to hold individuals either -- miners for up to 20 days. so the legal constraints and administrative constraints that are placed on us are -- they are leaving folks -- so our goal is zero tolerance without -- >> but -- >> hang on. without separating families. but in practical effect, agencies are dealing with that as best as they can. >> but raj, right now the zero-tolerance policy, according to customs and border protection, the commissioner is no longer in effect and they issued an order calling for the temporar...

Those would are on the list, if they maintain policies and are able to tell white house is coming in and meeting the standards should continue to allow their citizens to come to the united states. >> let's turn to immigration. the president so-called zero-tolerance policy, which calls for detaining everyone suspected of crossing the border illegally. is that still in effect as you and i speak right now? >> well the president's enforcement posture to the department of justice is amended to some extent by the president's executive order from last week. the goal here is to enforce the law to the ...