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Money. we need to get rid of that agency. again, i'm going to throw this out, this fair tax, we've been talking about it on my show, but the fair tax would eliminate the irs completely. it's another form of taxation, eliminate the income tax and the irs. bill: could the agency go back and get this money? >> yes. in fact, they do. bill: how did they do that? >> some of these cases, these inmates are using friends and family on the outside as accomplices and they go after the funds, whether they get them back or not. the jury is still out on it. but they go after -- but i will tell you, when the...

Lot of anxiety, and i agree. congress should have moved on the issue of immigration reform a long time ago, but we're running out of excuses. here's the deal. if we're going to talk about an enforcement process, let's do that and let's do enforcement. but beyond enforcement is part of the solution to the immigration, broken immigration system. some people want to keep it broken so they can take advantage of it politically. >> that's what i think. that's what i think. i'm agreeing with you. i think people -- they like it exactly the way it is. let me get back to representative murphy. you're on...

Supports -- everyone that supports -- not everyone that supports this law is a racist or a bigot. there's a lot of frustration, a lot of anxiety, and i agree. congress should have moved on the issue of immigration reform a long time ago, but we're running out of excuses. here's the deal. if we're going to talk about an enforcement process, let's do that and let's do enforcement. but beyond enforcement is part of the solution to the immigration, broken immigration system. some people want to keep it broken so they can take advantage of it politically. >> that's what i think. that's what i think...

Lot of anxiety, and i agree. congress should have moved on the issue of immigration reform a long time ago, but we're running out of excuses. here's the deal. if we're going to talk about an enforcement process, let's do that and let's do enforcement. but beyond enforcement is part of the solution to the immigration, broken immigration system. some people want to keep it broken so they can take advantage of it politically. >> that's what i think. that's what i think. i'm agreeing with you. i think people -- they like it exactly the way it is. let me get back to representative murphy. you're on...

To take over this enforcement process for themselves or even to help out in a major way that interferes with federal enforcement of immigration law and that is one contention that they'll argue here. this does interfere and enforcement is the job of federal law enforcement agents who have the right training to enforce the federal law. they'll also say there is some questions here of the procedure for those who are detained. it's different under the state law than it would be under the federal law and they'll also say that they'll rely on the similar conclusion that the federal guj w judge who ...