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For the president to try to move the goal post on that specific requirement as an example doesn't bode well in what his term is going to be. >> richard wolff i think we have to get used to that kind of talk in this debate. because what marco rubio can't do every day is say i agree with president obama. i agree with president obama. he has got to find the spots where he can claim he is to the right of president obama like on this -- what i don't think is a very big distinction on the whole enforcement side. >> it is not, unless you're prepared to militarize and fence the entire southern border ...

Enforce current laws and not create new ones that serve to burden lawful gun owners. the question is, you know, as he addresses the american audience at this time of crisis, at this time of national mourning, what does he need to say? >> well, i don't think he's going to say anything particularly new or different. i think that to the extent that people want to hear anything right now that's policy related, they probably want to hear a little bit more on the enforcement side, even though i agree, i don't think anything is going to happen. i think romney is in a tricky position. if there's a wro...

Big to fail banks believe, this is me just speaking, believe that many of us on the enforcement side are as scared or more scared than they are of peeling back the onion. if you start these investigations with the other side in this case the too big to fail banks believing that we are as or more scad onion as they that's a fundamental, fundamental problem. and that's why you see courageous attorneys general like nevada, martha koklian in massachusetts two name two who are actually doing something. we need to act here. words are nice but they're getting kind of old here. we need to act and inve...

Have and certain sectors of our economy, produce workers and stop depressing wages and ultimately find a path way for millions who are in the shadows. but -- and we understand that. the problem is that what the administration has done has been all on the enforcement side and has used none of its discretionary powers to provide some relief to immigrants in this country. >> two separate issues. let's talk about border security first because the argument that we're expecting him to make is, look, we've spent so many tens and millions of dollars, hundreds of millions and focused on border security...

Look, we can't get people, no matter what we pay, to do the critical jobs that we need. if you talk to the high-tech people in the silicon valley, they want to increase visas because they don't have enough engineers to do the great work that we want to continue to support throughout the world. the reality is that it's been on the enforcement side and our friends who believe in enforcement only as a solution to the problem will never be satisfied. >> well, we are going to be listening very closely with what the president has to say today. always good to see you, senator. thanks for being on. >>...