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The individual and employer mandate, got democratic votes. senator mcconnell on thursday night tried to put it on the senate calendar, invoked a mysterious rule 14, that i don't understand, and i think they might be able to force a vote in september. i give them credit for pushing, for fighting, which is good. there are more intelligent, tactically ways to fight than to say we're going to defund all of obamacare, voting for any continuing resolution that doesn't defund obamacare is surrender. it's going to be extremely difficult. >> chris: i have to say bill kristol was disappointingly diploma...

Wouldn't accept a bill that would fully fund the government, then he would be shutting down the government. that is the case we're going to take to the american people in august. in heritage we're going to do dozens of town halls around the country. i am combinationed more americans know about obamacare they will stand with those that want to stop it. >> chris: what is obamacare. it's with spending and you see republicans pulling back from the sequester, they say it's too tough for domestic programs. big fight in the first segment and nsa. why the threat inside the party and why is it playing ...

Saying all of us know you got to do something about the entitlement. the biggest growing entitlement before has has to do with healthcare. we can do something. the president has already given on obamacare, conceded that it's flawed, and the employer mandate shouldn't be put into effect. let's do the same for individuals. let's say it's only fair not to burden them with the taxes and mandate. >> less than a minute left. immigration. congressman paul ryan said the house will vote this bill, as early as october, on a bill to provide 11 million illegal immigrants already in this country with legal...

Extend that delay of a mandate to individuals and working people as well. >> he opposes that. >> we had 22 members of his party in the house join us. and in fact, what we also saw that week were three national democratic union leaders speak out on obamacare as well. they said that this law is already creating nightmare scenarios to working people in this country. as we know, as this union letter specified this, that obamacare is turning our economy into a part time economy. >> again, if i may, sir, aren't we -- >> we have common ground. >> but you don't have common ground with the president. y...

Mandate, got democratic votes. senator mcconnell on thursday night tried to put it on the senate calendar, invoked a mysterious rule 14, that i don't understand, and i think they might be able to force a vote in september. i give them credit for pushing, for fighting, which is good. there are more intelligent, tactically ways to fight than to say we're going to defund all of obamacare, voting for any continuing resolution that doesn't defund obamacare is surrender. it's going to be extremely difficult. >> chris: i have to say bill kristol was disappointingly diplomatic there, senator demint. s...