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It's just common sense. >> democrats say they are not interested in talking unless and until the president puts the daca issue back on the table and they were quick to take issue with details of the president's plan. >> the word that they use, merit. it is really a condescending word. are they saying family is without merit? are they saying most of the people come to the united states in the history of our country are without merit because they don't have an engineering degree? >> just clear from there, there's no legislation passing. the only way the president would have to bring them to the ...

>> the president has been talking about fixing our broken immigration system for so long and i think the whole point of what he is saying is we want to give people coming into our country, we want to give legal immigrants the best chance possible. it is good for our country to have people who are skilled workers or have certain education that will benefit our country but for them, too. why would we want people to come here when they aren't sure if they can succeed? taxes are overtaxed when it comes to the welfare system but let's give these people the best chance possible to succeed in our own...

"merit." it's a condescending word. they're saying family is without merit. are they saying most of the people that come to the united states in the history of our country are without merit because they don't have an engineering degree? >> richard blumenthal said under the new plan, neither his father or president trump's father would have been allowed in. proponents will tell you, ed, this country has changed a lot in its makeup in technology, education over the years. and that it is time to change to a merit-based system. canada does it, new zealand does it, japan does it. the numbers that t...

People that come to the united states in the history of our country are without merit because they don't have an engineering degree? >> nope. that's not what they're saying. as you know, there's a number of countries that have merit-based immigration systems. among them, australia, canada, germany, south korea and others, this is frankly about as much as the president can do to get the gop on the same page. there will be some push back. the idea is still the same. we have to fix the problem and it begins here and now. neil? >> neil: thanks, kevin. the president says a merit system will have am...

We cherish the open door that we want to create for our country, but a big proportion of those immigrants must come in through merit and skill. >> what is really condescending word. they are saying family is without merit. are they saying most of the people that come to the united states in the history of our country are without merit? as if they don't have an engineering degree? >> bret: speaker pelosi talking about the emigration plan. back to the panel. chuck an interesting take after the word merit, merit-based. >> chuck: well, you know, i can certainly see why she did that, but it does im...