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When they were younger. they were just another all-american family. >> sure. and i understand they had lived in the neighborhood when you moved there. at one point you wound up baby-sitting with his sister right? >> yes, that's correct. >> so you knew the family pretty well. what about him? what about this alleged shooter, mohammed? what can you tell us about him? >> last time i saw him, we talked about how he recently graduated from utc. he seemed like an intelligent, nice boy. i never would have seen this coming from him, absolutely not. he was just another engineering major who graduated re...

Interest in politics but we did have an engineering major in the white house. his name was jimmy carter, but my point was that, you know, there might be something to this. what do you think? >> talk is cheap. i agree. >> oh, no, no. >> didn't you used to write speeches, young man? >> i did write a lot of speeches and that's how i know that talk is cheap. >> but you never set it to music. >> but i never set it to music. but, look this guy is an inspiring entertainer and i'd love to see him on tv and love to see him have his own show and he's a country preacher and reminds me of a very famous ol...

Gone through an exhausting but not necessarily exciting day. from it was my job to pump them up, get them excited about why they were here. >> neil: a quick p.s. to that, i got hundreds of e-mails to folks after that, neil, mini-me. i don't need that. okay. i didn't look like that when -- actually, he was a lot more handsome. charles, good lesson for dc, anyone in leadership? >> anyone in leadership, but especially in dc. whenever someone in washington speaks, we can't, they won't. it's their fault. it's their fault. i got to tell you, they should have been in the front row. everyone watching ...

Clients. >> that was no signal. i have think it means the plain english meaning. >> which is what, sir? are you concerned they won't get a fair trial? >> no. i believe the citizens of boston can fairly and accurately listen to the rules of law and give someone a fair trial, at least that's as of this moment in time. >> why did he reenter the country when he was no longer a student and no long her a valid visa? >> he was a student. he's a sophomore, engineering major at the university of massachusetts. he did not attend classes regularly. so he's been in this country legally. technical violatio...

Dzhokhar tsarnaev according to the complaint saying go into my room and take whatever you want. is that some kind of a signal to the client? >> there was no signal. i think it means the plain english meaning. >> which is what, sir? >> are you concerned these guys won't get a fair trial considering all that's going on in the country? >> no. we believe that the citizens of boston can fairly and accurately listen to the rules of law and give someone a fair trial, at least that's at this moment in time. that's all i have to say. >> why did your client re-enter the country when he was no longer a s...