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Thing. this happens from time to time and it's part of the mosaic of safety procedures that takes place during the lifetime of any aircraft. >> so let's talk about this 787, the dreamliner, folks are looking at bells and whistles. how is this different? >> in a lot of ways, from a pilot's standpoint. but they made it from an engineering standpoint. for example, it's 20% more efficient than any other airplane of its size and this is because it doesn't have bleed air used to pressurize the airplane or heat the wings. that means they're using electric motors and pumps and that means that the engi...

We are questioning whether or not on those rare occasions that there's a design defect, whether they're quick enough to at least check it out thoroughly and make the changes quickly. jon: back to your questions for the national traffic safety administration and other government entities, are you concerned here that the u.s. government drop the ball for the consumer as much as toyota might have? >> absolutely. what we see is a pattern of investigations beginning and then being closed. in one case we have e-mails showing they were talking about expanding an investigation that they then abandoned...

Right investments for the future in terms of education and innovation. >> i understand that, but -- i'm sorry to interrupt you, but from an engineering standpoint, i did 15 years in the financial community, in order to solve a problem, you actually have to correctly identify the source of the problem, right? we can agree to that, right? >> oh, absolutely. >> and so if we understand that employer-based health care with limited choice is extraordinarily expensive, it's the most expensive health care system on the earth and yet our quality of care is 37, if we understand that our energy consumpti...