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Points that i was hearing from the pentagon and the white house, i thought this whole thing was moving along swimmingly now. and yet here i am 12 hours later and i haven't seen a plane take off in eight hours. and i'm watching children coming up to me and saying please could you get me some food. so, it is clearly not working and one can only hope, i get it, it is really mammoth, gargantuan task and it is not for me to sit on the side lines and criticize without understanding the enormous of the undertaking but i come back to the point where did it have to be this way and try to evacuate 60,00...

Second is ventilation and filtration my gosh, we've had a year to do this. schools have gotten billions of dollars from congress, they should have done this by now if not they can do it pretty quickly and cheaply. and then testing. testing on an ongoing basis picks up infection. so if we could do those things are not even that controversial, there's no fights about them, it would make an enormous if it's but i do think mask wearing would be helpful. and spacing is really just about avoiding that super crowded assembly hall, concerts, things are we get into trouble. >> as we think about life in...

Enormous, right? we have another 500 people who've been charged. another 100 could be slapped with an indictment. this is a very large undertaking. we know typically the wheels of justice can turn slowly. i'm sure you often hear that from people who are lamenting about that process. but we are already seeing the first sentencing here for the first felony. what do you make of that? >> some people say how come some of the sentences are so low? how come some of the defendants are only being sentenced to probation? sentencing, lindsey, is an intensely individual endeavor. each defendant is differe...

Forward. and just yesterday they were saying they didn't think they had heard from all the families of the missing yet, and they wanted their information. they wanted their dna to be swabbed so that they could make comparisons with any remains they find. it's sort of a slow process, and one that they don't have, you know, complete confidence in being completely correct. i think we would all love to think that a lot of these people are sort of on vacation somewhere and not following the news, but i don't know that that's the case. >> in terms of the ongoing efforts, the rescue and recovery effo...

In, teams from other countries, and teams from around the united states, that have specialized expertise, specialized equipment. can you give us any sense of how dangerous the rescue and recovery efforts are? obviously, these are specialized teams and they know what they're doing, but some of the pace of it, i think, obviously, like you said, they have got an enormous -- the enormity of the task is daunting. but are they themselves at risk for potential further collapse while they're on site, on the pile? >> that was of particular concern early on. it still is, but early on, they really had no...