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For a role and you'll take the chance the other show will fail and they'll become b available. >> we were a little nervous but we saw a million people. even made an offer to someone else. >> who? >> no. >> it's the 25th anniversary. now the truth can be told. >> he's a lovely actor. named craig bierco. and he didn't want to do an ensemble show. >> i'm going to go with not craig's best decision. >> okay. my colleague is hosting the one hour special friends forever. 25 years of laughter and i spoke with with her about the fame of friends. >> good to see you. and oh my gosh. i mean so many folks ...

Wanted him. >> he was doing another show called l.a.x. 2194. >> sci-fi sitcom 2194. >> about baggage handlers in 2194, i sorted out aliens luggage. >> that is not a winning title. >> no, it's not. it's not. but that was in first position. >> that happens when you find a talent perfect for a role. you take a chance, the other show fails and they become available. >> we thought of other people, even made an offer to someone else. >> who? >> no. >> it's the 25th anniversary, now the truth can be told. he >> he's a lovely actor named craig bierto. he did not want to be an ensemble show. >> i'm goi...

About, that we got educated about. >> that exists. >> do not worry about fox. >> to your point, the show they put on at 9:00, tucker slid to 8:00, was on at 5:00 in the afternoon. huge monster numbers, often their highest rated show, will they slide it four hours later? >> i think that's a very smart move. no ensemble show at night. obviously it's about the personalities, but i think it was a very smart move. it just shows, they went like this, they moved the parts. >> slal commented on this. we're going to have that coming up next. >> as soundsing. >> she took a stand, it was strong. wait unt...

Meredith vieira had the tricky challenge of following katie couric. how much has she meant to that show? >> she meant a lot. replacing katie was almost seamless when they chose meredith vieira. it is very difficult to bring that about and meredith seemed to have kind of the same background, kind of sort of the same level of notoriety and sort of likability in public mind. in my mind ann curry will be just about as smooth a transition. it ought to be anyway. >> we will get to that in a moment. i bump flood al roker who was telling me he loves meredith vieira. he didn't know how without it go wh...

osama bin laden was portrayed as fearsome figure? was he a myth? meredith we have avieira leavin today show. the strange spectacle on fox news last night with mike huckabee boug out of the presidential race. i'm howard kurtz. this is "reliable sources." one day before he jumped into the presidential race newt gingrich was greeted by a front page picture of his wife. she is according to "the new york times" perhaps best remembered for the six-year affair that contributed to her husband's downfall. when he was speaker of the house, of course, pushing to impeach bill clinton over the mo...