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This? is there a point it back fires on them? >> you can't get ahead of all of the facts. i think this week is a different week. it was a very different week in terms of the narrative of the story. we didn't know last week that there was actual black-and-white e-mail prove that the administration was willing and open and wanted to get information and dirt on hillary clinton and they didn't care where it came from. it turns out it came from the russians at a time when they were interfering with our elections. is it coincidence where don jr. says i love it, maybe we can do it later, is it a coin...

Wasn't clear, she says she either showed it to them or may have left it there. she said it was a two-page document. there's mention it was a folder and it was left there. it's not clear. >> there's a lot that isn't clear. but have you drawn conclusions or significant things to consider when you think about this meeting? >> absolutely. this meeting may be a game changer in the russia investigation. it goes back to the e-mails that came out by rob goldsteone to - he's been in business with the trump family. they say they have information from the russian prosecutors detrimental to hillary clinto...

Russian lobbyist was also there. what was his role and what are we learning of it now? joining me, ken delaynian. do we finally know who was in the room during the meeting? >> despite our best efforts, we don't. that says a lot about how this story has evolved. the trump team has had a week to clarify that. don junior went on television and said he told us everything about the meeting. as of last night, we're hearing about a translator and another unnamed person in the room. we're still trying to gather information about that. >> all right. a russian american lobbyist reportedly with ties to r...

Committee. they may have had a document that they either left or showed to the trump team. the trump team didn't think very much of this information, didn't think it was significant. >> do we know what was in this document? >> we have an idea that it had to do with allegations about a hedge fund manager pouring money into the democratic national committee. it's not even clear the allegations were these were legal contributions. it doesn't seem to have amounted to much, alex. interestingly, current and former intelligence officials say don't focus on the meeting. that's not the issue. the inter...

I think if there's no action being taken, i think it has a big effect on what we're able to do in congress. i want to empower our intelligence agents. it's very important. it's difficult to make that case to the american people if that information is then being used for domestic political warfare. >> very true point, congressman. are you pushing chairman gowdy who has independent subpoena aukt authority to subpoena the comey memos? >> we're working on it. you remember jason chaffetz, when he was chairman, he immediately talked to comey after being fired once the memos were leaked and wanted to...