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And the large bulk larger than foreign aid would be paying federal workers the same as you pay private workers, if you brought that into parity, you'd save nearly the entire amount that you need for the sequester. >> well, what then to understand this, in all of the discussion about sequestration and where to cut and where not to cut, certain things i don't understand. for instance, the department s july 2011, and june 2012, that 4.9 billion in improper unemployment benefits remain, unemployment fraud. i mean, theres' so many-- why is not the discussion at least identifying these huge pockets ...

Airport security will see cutbacks. >> it just makes me ashamed to have our common sense and intelligence insulted the way it's being. it just makes me ashamed. >> what we know with unfortunate certainty is that the impact of sequester would be negative on the economy. >> we just keep spending more money, would he create more dependency. we get more and more irresponsible, one crisis to the next, all of them manufactured, except for the real crisis, which nobody ever addresses and that is we can't afford any of this. >> the sequester, real crisis or politics as usual or both. karl rove joins u...

Cutting that program before we cut other things that are more important. so the republicans have a 1-2 punch. give the president flexibility so the cabinet secretaries can pick and choose, and takes something less important out of the accounts and keep the important parts of the budget into act and oversight to blow the whistle on any phony money kind of pr gimmicks that the cabinet officials or try to blame them for it. >> greta: a picture if you look at it the guy in the bathtub, he didn't have two matching wine glasses and paid all of that money. i've taken the last word on that one. thank ...

Cutting that program before we cut other things that are more important. so the republicans have a 1-2 punch. give the president flexibility so the cabinet secretaries can pick and choose, and takes something less important out of the accounts and keep the important parts of the budget into act and oversight to blow the whistle on any phony money kind of pr gimmicks that the cabinet officials or try to blame them for it. >> greta: a picture if you look at it the guy in the bathtub, he didn't have two matching wine glasses and paid all of that money. i've taken the last word on that one. thank ...

Would stand up and say the ridiculousless. explain that. >> we've said all along the sequester is a cut in the rate of increase and even in one year where a blip goes down in spending departments. there are ways to do this without losing any jobs and for example, not rehiring people. when federal workers retire, you know, if you don't hire new workers to replace them, that saves about 6 billion a year. if you were to pay federal employees about the same level you pay private employees, that saves about 32 billion a year. there are other places to cut. you could cut foreign aid in half and save...