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President -- the president basically said today that he's going to judge bp's performance basically by basically it sounded to me like the noise level coming around here. if you people down there along the gulf aren't satisfied, the president is not going to besou that's what he was saying today. >> politically because we're not satisfied today. there's 30,000 skimming boats in the world and 59% of every skimming boat in the world needs to be in the gulf of mexico and we need to be dealing with this spill out in the gulf of mexico, not in our waterways, inland waterways >> i keep bringing that...

Rather than working at cross purposes. >> let me ask you about the copenhagen environmental summit. that was something you put a lot of personal stock in, a lot of investment for the future, and it did not deliver its promise. and that was the world either working together or working against each other. where does this go? >> copenhagen was very -- i think most people were expecting a fair agreement. they thought it was a chance for us to come together and protect our planet. the agreement, if i can call it an agreement, was really negotiated by a handful of countries. europe, for example, tha...

Expecting a firm, binding agreement. they thought it was a chance for us to come together and protect our planet. the agreement, if i can call it an agreement, was really negotiated by a handful of countries. europe, for example, that had been in the lead on this whole environment issue, was pushed aside. they were not part of the agreement or understanding is a better word. and of course now we are looking at copenhagen. i mean we are looking at mexico. and i hope we are going to do all the work that is required between now and december to go to mexico, determined to make a real progress, bec...

Than the early part of the century. now, for example, i think the comfort of peace, reconciliation and also the concept of love and compassion, i think these are -- and also the environment issue. i think human beings, i think it's better to have all the reality. and i feel in 20th century through a lot of pain, killing, i think some -- according to some experts, the 20th century more than 200 million people killed through warfare. so such a painful experience helped humanity thinking more mental. so i'm optimistic. >> larry: one other thing. you talk of love. you love the chinese? >> certainl...

It is much better. >> larry: why? >> why? oh, the future is open. and then still we are in this planet. so now i think the practical reason is judging even in the 20th century, i think the later part of the 20th century basically much more healthier than the early part of the century. now, for example, i think the comfort of peace, reconciliation and also the concept of love and compassion, i think these are -- and also the environment issue. i think human beings, i think it's better to have all the reality. and i feel in 20th century through a lot of pain, killing,