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Of gm experience under his belt, an individual who ran the so-called quality audit, warned the entire board of these defective automobiles? >> michael, we're always very grateful when any employee of the general motors corporation stands tall and comes forward with the truth. this also shines light on the fact that gm as a corporate culture wantonly ignored safety issues, even when alerted by their own employees. >> there was something he said, which was breathtaking. i'd like to just play a brief tape and have you respond to it. roll that if you would. >> if that had been corrected in '98, if...

His attention as the head of the corporate quality audit. they were concerns he says fell on deaf ears. what was your opinion as to why you were getting a, quote, hostile reaction from supervisors with whom you shared your safety concerns? >> well, you have to get into -- i have to get into my opinion here. my feeling was just talking to people that it wasn't particularly the defects that bothered people. it was the fact that if these defects actually existed, it called into question the entire system that was in place. if the entire system that was in place was in question, then there were a ...

Of the blame on a single engineer. i talked about that finding with former gm employee william mcaleer. mcaleer spent nearly 36 years working for gm, a portion of which had him as the head of a corporate quality audit. in 2002 he warned the entire gm board of directors of safety defects in gm cars, concerns he says were not acted upon. here is more of the exclusive interview. my reading of the report without your area of expertise and knowledge of the subject matter, i'm just a lay person, when i take a look at it, but it seems there was one particular engineer who knew or had reason to know t...

Former u.s. attorney was tasked with finding out exactly why general motors either ignored or hid a deadly problem with ignition switches for more than a decade. thus far 15 people have lost their jobs, even after the report put much of the blame on a single engineer. i talked about that finding with former gm employee william mcaleer. mcaleer spent 36 years working for gm, a portion of him as the head of a corporate quality audit. in 2002 he warned the entire gm board of directors of safety defects in gm cars concerns he says were not acted upon. here's more of that exclusive interview. >> my...

Of july 25, 2002, had been addressed at that time, the ignition switch issue would never have grew to what it became? >> that's exactly what i'm saying. the point i'm trying to make, michael, is if your environment says a problem is unacceptable, you can't have a problem, that's what happened with the ignition switch. people knew that was a problem but problems were not acceptable. so they just, they just ignored it. >> so michael, why did gm ignore what he was saying when he spoke up? >> let me give you a brief background. this is a guy, wolf, who had 36 years in at gm when all was said and d...