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That do this for a living. partnercom recruits for small and large companies, and they're going to take fees. they may have a different fee structure for smaller companies. my only advice is go to your alumni database. high school, college, business school, other -- because i think if you have that connection with someone, it is a great place to start. many of us went to, you know, schools that have national reach, and you'll be able to sort of go in there, somebody's much more likely to return your call if you have that alumni connection. >> if you get somebody who's willing to help you -- so...

If you're not going to get a venture capitalist? >> well, there are certainly third-party folks that do this for a living. there's search firms. there's a new york company called partner com that recruits for small and large companies and they're going to take fees. they may have a different fee structure for smaller companies. my own advice is go to your alumni database. i mean, high school, college, business school, other -- because i think if you have that connection with someone, it's a great place to start. many of us went to, you know, schools that have national reach, and you'll be able...