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From all over the state, not only because of they might live somewhere where there isn't a major hospital but if they live somewhere where there is a hospital, it might not have the resources providence has? >> exactly. we're the largest hospital in the state. we accept transfers from small communities and our critical access hospitals that are out in small, a little bit larger communities like billing ham. patients who get sick out there and have a cardiology need, if they need a cardiology catheterization or cabbage, any of those surgeries, if they have a stroke and need specialized neuro lo...

Is providence the kind of hospital that people come to from all over the state, not only because of they might live somewhere where there isn't a major horngts but even if they live somewhere where there is a hospital, it might not have the resources providence has? >> exactly. we're the largest hospital in the state. we accept transfers from small communities and our critical access hospitals that are out in small, a little bit larger communities like billingham. patients who get sick out there and have a cardiology need, if they need a cardiology catheterization or cabbage, any of those surg...

And we're boarding people there, taking care of people who really need the icu beds that you mentioned are in such short supply. right now our icus are mostly filled with people who require to be on a ventilator. and that means we're taking care of some incredibly sick patients in the rooms outside of the icu. these are people who could use an icu bed, but at this point, the bar is so high to get into the icu, you really need to be on a ventilator. and that is a very stressful situation for families, for nurses who are taking care of these patients on the floors and in the e.r.s, and for every...

And was turned away from 43 hospitals fwlauz wabecause ther space. at what point will there be a broadening rationing of care and what's the future for alabama? >> thank you for having me. i think you ask a challengieing question for us all. cases are plateauing. if you look at some data, potentially dropping. it doesn't remove the challenge we face in our icus and patient who is come to our e.r.s do receive care. it's obviously challenge by the fact we have so many covid patients in our hospital. practically if you show up at our e.r., we do everything within our power to make sure you get yo...

Maybe not the one next to your house but maybe within a 20-mile radius and get care. his story is unfortunately incredibly sad and tragic, just heartbreaking. and we're seeing that play out. this is not an isolated event. most of our emergency departments in the state are really overwhelmed. and we're boarding people there, taking care of people who really need the icu beds that you mentioned are in such short supply. right now our icus are mostly filled with people who require to be on a ventilator. and that means we're taking care of some incredibly sick patients in the rooms outside of the ...