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You're saying -- >> when it's rooted in our constitution, yes. >> okay. that's all i wanted to know. >> like the racial discrimination in the 14th amendment. >> that's all i'm asking. >> but this is a big stretch to imagine that our founding fathers were banning gay marriage in passing our constitution -- >> mr. wolfson -- >> i think many people will recognize that. >> she raise point a lot of people raise is why should one judge be able to overturn the will of the people? >> well, it's not just one judge. it's the whole system of courts and an independent judiciary. it's the whole idea of a c...

Hallowed ground of ground zero, offensive to many people, no doubt about it. i mean, i have qualms about it myself. but doesn't it send a message about what america is and the strength of america and their values? oh. >> you know, i would love to believe that. but, no, overseas is not going to be viewed that way. lit be a propaganda victory for a lot of radical islamists to have a mosque planted on ground zero. >> i disagree. the propaganda victory is if, in fact, they're blocked and they can argue, once again, they're oppressed by the great satan america, which is not true. i would point out ...

Protection. >> i was talking to eric ericsson in an earlier statement. he said he thinks 20 years is a nonissue. the tide is moving in the direction of same-sex marriage. do you believe it's true? it's a fear, it's a concern. >> i don't believe the future belongs to same-sex marriage. civilizations that lose the idea is basically to make a marriage, you need a husband and wife, or try to put in the founding documents the idea that children need a mom and dad is now bigotry is going to be in trouble and i want to protect america from that trouble down the road. >> the proof that the national or...

>> i was talking to eric ericsson in an earlier statement. he said he thinks 20 years is a nonissue. the tide is moving in the direction of same-sex marriage. do you believe it's true? it's a fear, it's a concern. >> i don't believe the future belongs to same-sex marriage. civilizations that lose the idea is basically to make a marriage, you need a husband and wife, or try to put in the founding documents the idea that children need a mom and dad is now bigotry is going to be in trouble and i want to protect america from that trouble down the road. >> the proof that the national organization f...

Earth. >> the other big partisan battle i want to ask both of you about is this battle over an islamic center, a mosque two blocks away from ground zero in new york. paul, i mean, how much does it concern you that you have conservatives arguing that there should be investigations of the backgrounds of religious figures who have not committed any crime by any definition? >> again, this i think cuts against the libertarian message, which is that government shouldn't tell somebody on private property how they worship god or where to worship god. by the way, there's been a moss nic tribeca not ver...