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Caucuses. you are not going to turn down televised debate. you can't do it. what he did in iowa is interesting. run television ads that are positive ads. at least not negative against opponents. they're against obama. if i were he i would go to the debate. he can't afford not to do that. he needs to engage people. this guy is in trouble in the polls. he has got to use his money to get back in the game. >> eric: 18 more? >> bob: no, there are nine. >> eric: 18 more debates. >> bob: they're not all televised. >> eric: that is what he means? >> dana: they didn't say they weren't going to do them....

Bush. a lot of people think one thing perry has going for him, i don't necessarily agree with this, he tweaks the establishment and drives them crazy. which a lot of the rangers might be considered establishment. >> eric: if he did, he'd do a lot what mitt romney does. >> bob: move you along. not because i predict him the other day, but newt gingrich seems i think to be the adult in the debate. he comes across as a guy with reason. nobody argues he's not smart. she a dark horse who can win in iowa. what do you think? >> eric: can i say something? >> bob: yes. >> greg: they call it the newt tor...

Limit the debates offered? >> bob: they won't do that. the rule of thumb is take two-and-a-half days out of campaign week to get ready for the debate and do the debate itself. it's exhibition season, except the difference here is with an uniformed republican primary ballot, or candidates, you seem to move him all around. what is moving them? debates. i think tv will start to move them. that's where perry has a big advantage. he can spend money, the rest can't. >> andrea: what i would do if i were perry, embrace the george bush conservative, embrace george bush. that's something a lot of candid...

>> andrea: the establishment money, the establishment money yet to be released. you watch, you will see perry embrace it. >> greg: stop interviewing pat robertson. >> bob: i have a tease. do you know what tease means? do you ever tease -- anyway, coming up. occupy wall street protesters did a good job garnering support. >> andrea: make you -- >> bob: we're on "the five." >> greg: come on back and listen to everyone beat up on this. ♪ ♪

13-year-old. what would i do in what would i do? you have thoughts. >> greg: you would be upset. >> eric: if i had a 13-year-old daughter and had a male teacher -- >> greg: you would go crazy. you'd be upset if your son was 13 -- >> eric: he was 16 -- i mean these parents were very emotional. you have a boy and a girl. >> bob: the first time i would be in favor of handguns. >> andrea: if it were your daughter. >> bob: correct. >> eric: what about your son? >> dana: he might be watching. >> bob: it would be -- no, i would be upset. listen, on a serious note here, this is not the first time we'v...