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Protecting against these insurer problems because if everybody could buy insurance you would have this huge flow of correct data. it's hard to get visibility on that. i spoke to a top insurer. he said it's bad but getting better. other insurers said it's not getting better. we don't know what the error rate is. but that is a problem that i think the obama administration is and should be worried about. >> chuck, obviously a lot of attention on tone and substance that the president brings to this event today. what's going on at the senior levels in the white house. how big of a problem do they t...

There are goinging to hbe hiccups, how long do you think people can give patience to this? >> i don't know exactly. you get this question of how long do you need to get the number of people into the federal exchanges that you need for an appropriate risk pool. on the -- on eugene's comment, and i've heard this a lot, i actually don't think you can overstate ha complicated what they're doing here is. how complicated this website is. it's not like building a static website. it's not like building the kinds of things that we think about as a website. it's a back-end architecture. that's where all...

Vague it is, you do have to wonder if the british government was seeking retaliatory action. what they've done now is stirred the ire of glenn green wald and they'll soon find out i think what other secret documents he has that could cause them more trouble. >> we are in the age of punitive journalism. ryan, i want to play you some sound because this is what the story is the about, right? there was a recent report in the "washington post" about the error rate among the nsa and peter king characterized it this way. listen to this and respond. >> no, there is not a problem. it worked. if you hav...

Crime has been on the decline for the last 20 years, beginning interestingly enough during the last two years when ray kelly was police commissioner who at that time embraced community policing and began this dramatic decline in crime opinion there's a 90% error rate in the stop and frisk program. no corporation in america would tolerate such an error rate. you can't argue based on the numbers that it has an effect on the decrease in crime in new york city. and so i don't think there's any factually based argument or any case to make. he should get credit as the mayor should for the continued ...

Altimeter. >> it's possible there are mechanical problems here as well. mark, my question to you is how do we understand the safety revolution that has happened in commercial air? i mean, it just seems to me when you're thinking about this as a problem to solve, you have so many moving parts. i don't mean the moving parts of jet airlines going at hundreds of miles an hour. i mean, you have different governments, right? a plane has to go in south africa and in germany and in buton and all sorts of different places. you have different governance regimes, different regulatory regimes, different a...