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Cia has not been merely reacting to the senate intelligence committee's reporting. according to this new reporting, it's believed that the cia may have been spying on congress spying on the by accessing the computer networks that the cia themselves provided to the committee to use during their initial investigation. "the new york times" is reporting that the cia spied on congress, specifically on the senate committee that's supposed to have oversight of the cia. this is kind of death of the public kind of stuff, the whole separation of powers thing almost pales in comparison to the seriousness...

Disintegrated right after 9/11 was at the time cooperation after 9/11 was really a predicate for him to say, we're with you on terrorism so that you'll ignore what we're doing in chechnya. it was never, ever to do anything beyond russian interests and it was an opportunity to say no to things that they thought were not in its interests. >> you're so right to point out the self-interest. because there was that brief flurry of cooperation after the boston marathon bombing, then a lot of recriminations, then this. what's so extraordinary about this, president obama picks up the phone, calls putin...

What exactly are they doing to fight terrorism? now the documents are revealed, what's your take? >> this is going to provide policymakers and members of congress with a tough decision. the united states reimburses pakistan over a billion dollars a year for pakistan's efforts along the border supplying some 150,000 troops there for counter terrorism efforts, but here these new documents that sport the report that we and other organizations have done over the last couple of years to show the very country we are helping to pay reimburse those operations for their spy services is actually support...

Unexpected by anybody he would do this, right? trump being trump? >> we talk about how this has been a chronic problem. the staff produces 2 to 5 pages of paper for trump to prepare him for these meetings. he insisted all of that be boiled down from bullet points on a single page and often strays from those. there's a real concern about the lack of discipline here. >> according to your reporting, is the intel community distressed? i realize it's disturbing to hear he would reveal -- he would reveal information he has no authority to reveal, from a partner ally. what's the reaction from the int...

Treating the then soviet union. this is the period when vladimir putin was an active kgb agent. so you start to put the dots together. donald trump has this affinity. then he has a need. and if you are russia and you're the spy services, who would you target that would be vulnerable? it would be something who is needy or greedy. they're not just cultivating donald trump. ross perot was on the same trip to go and meet gorbachev. you have this active according to being done of the potential american oligarchs who might have needed some russian financing, who might have been open to hearing about...