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Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government. i should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. jefferson's preference for papers may or may not tell us much, given he had a preference for slavery. an essential element in the great american democracy. are they over? >> yeah, they're over. >> newspapers are over. newspapers that you can hold in your hands and that sort of thing. the real issue is a free press. and the corporatization of the entire country, not just newspapers you can lose a free press pretty easily. i ...

In an abortion. so this is all consistent, this is all extreme. this is extremism on abortion. this is a country that needs respect for each side and looking for some way to satisfy the two arguments which are deeply entrenched. i think there are ways to do it. obama is doing the exact opposite and i think it's cynical as a way to win a constituency for himself and for his democratic successors. >> bret: juan? >> well, i think he has every right to speak to planned parenthood. not only is it in terms of the law a right to support abortion rights in this country, i think you're looking at a pol...

But i think it's an essential element in prevention focus. and the idea of we think of the world as having white hats and black hats and that's not the way the world unfolds. >> what do you mean? good guys and bad guys? >> when a young person commits an act of violence he's a bad person. he did it because of some deeply-rooted criminal identity he got. that's not the way violence unfolds. >> i want to interject something as well because i want to quote ircan ford in new york. when she works with young team who have become perpetrators it's from the standpoint that they were initially victims a...

Immigration reform? >> well, more than anything else, the fact that it was authentic and organic movement that was created by the dreamers, themselves. and it was quite courageous to see the young people stepping out knowing that they were putting themselves at risk, but saying that they did feel part of this country, and that they were in every which way they knew possible americans except for certificate. o they have been a true source of inspiration and courage and you would be surprised how that can move people. we do know that the polls show that the dreamers have broad suppo support, and...

Catherine is live in washington this afternoon, so the u.s. attorney held a news conference on this. what did we learn? >>reporter: telling reporters that the networking was an essential element including facebook and exchanging sex for drugs or money. here is one exchange between anuallied gang member identified as "mw." like to get 50 percent and you get the drugs and stuff you want basically, and as long as i don't have to sleep with them i will hit me up with the details. >> ages ranged between 16, 17, 18. some were older. but usually they could work from several weeks to several months an...