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Digitization. >> bill: you are absolutely right. they are in denial. which is why i had to get alan colmes' attention. >> what i saw you do to that poor man, bill, i was shocked. i saw this and i thought to myself now, that is a broadcaster who isn't in control of his feelings. >> are you talking about colmes or me? >> oh, i thought that -- i thought the way that you personally handled it, bill. you don't get excited like that on television. people don't like that. it doesn't work. next thing you know you look like -- crying or whatever. bill, i was a little disappointed new. >> can i see how ...

Digitization. >> bill: you are absolutely right. they are in denial. which is why i had to get alan colmes' attention. >> what i saw you do to that poor man, bill, i was shocked. i saw this and i thought to myself now, that is a broadcaster who isn't in control of his feelings. >> are you talking about colmes or me? >> oh, i thought that -- i thought the way that you personally handled it, bill. you don't get excited like that on television. people don't like that. it doesn't work. next thing you know you look like -- crying or whatever. bill, i was a little disappointed new. >> can i see how ...

Washington gets its act together. gregg: you're dodging my question. republicans will wish they voted for plan b, tony. tony? >> gregg, the essential point is this, we have to solve the problem. we can no longer play this game and kick the can down the road. so if we're going to do it at least give the markets, the stability, let the bush tax cuts --. gregg: last question, marjorie. the whole fiscal cliff crisis is all about finding a way to cut the $16 trillion plus debt. and yet the president is demanding new spending, more spending. is it no wonder that people think he is just not serious a...

Decided to create some themselves. that's one of the sort of terrible down sides of this. if they use this as an excuse to e say, we need these tough voter i.d. laws because you made the essential point. there were two broad points of view on this. one is we're so worried about fraud we're going to make it really hard for a lot of people to vote or that the whole process is supposed to make it easy for people to cast ballots. and that the worst thing they did was to destroy people's voter registration forms. but i don't remember anything like this except acorn. and i think this is where we're ...

That's one of the sort of terrible down sides of this. if they use this as an excuse to say, we need these tough voter i.d. laws because you made the essential point. there were two broad points of view on this. one is we're so worried about fraud we're going to make it really hard for a lot of people to vote or that the whole process is supposed to make it easy for people to cast ballots. and that the worst thing they did was to destroy people's voter registration forms. but i don't remember anything like this except acorn. and i think this is where we're going to have to ask our conservative...