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The stump. he's been there forever target. people are still furious about that rubio super pac ad of christie walking on the beach. he looked extremely fat. it reminded everybody how fat and sloppy he used to be. he is a very juicy target. >> in '95 before the '96 race, lamar alexander was the first to go negative after anybody. he went after pete wilson. it was somebody in his lane. lamar secured third place. is this what rubio is fighting for, third place? >> maybe. he is fighting for the establishment position. i don't think he is an establishment guy, but he's been pigeon holed into that b...

I think they want to yell no. and that's why i think when they go into a primary, they want to say no to any name brand republican, any establishment position. the easiest gut way of saying something else. you know what i feel? no. and boehner's trying to say yes. >> i was fascinated by the fact that he said there in that sound bite, i didn't want to shut the government down. i think he even said i didn't want to end obamacare. that was the phraseology he used. the way forward is to focus on obamacare. and if they can do that, if they can get the tea party people and the establishment people t...