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You'd say that sounds right. that mavericks sense. but guess what? it's not bush at 41%, trump at 3%. it's the other way around. 41%, the highest any candidate has gotten. bush, the son and brother of presidents down 3% within the margin of error of nothing. that's the big story tonight. tomorrow we have the big las vegas debate where trump might be thinking knockout. katy tur and hallie jackson join me from the site of the republican debate. this is a nightmare for republican establishment types. donald trump has broken 41% nationally. trump has opened up a 27-point lead over the field. this ...

Who are not finish they don't necessarily pick donald trump as their number one candidate, but they are willing to consider him if somebody else drops out, if their number one does drop out. that is a key number because for so long, you know, either you loved donald trump or hated donald trump. what we're seeing now is more and more voters are coming to the point where, well, i don't really love him, i'm not ready to vote for him right now, but, you know, i love ben carson, but if ben carson were out to, i would consider voting for donald trump. that has to be the most terrifying statistic for...

Republicans that have been equally guilty on the high deficits? >> well, i think you're right. and he speaks to what is called the washington cartel, the political insiders of both parties who often don't hear what real americans have to say. i disagree with him on how he characterized some mexican folks. i disagree with him about john mccain. he changed his opinion on john mccain. but i think he is exciting for the country. in a marketplace of ideas. he may go down in flames and lose but he's got a viewpoint that he is articulating and you can't push anybody out of the process. >> right now h...

Field whereas jeb bush thought he could consolidate it earl limit you have other establishment types around. a lot won't last much longer and i can' the chris christie voters, rick perry voters going in jeb's direction. it's not a bad idea to be there when and if the trump phenomenon ends. >> gene, we are seeing more than one analysis as you stare at the polls and trump hits 25, 25. a lot of people look at that. stuart stevens who ran mitt romney's campaign is going beyond that in an article in "the daily beast" and he says trump will drop out before any votes are cast. he writes donald trump ...

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