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Now is stifling our ability to create jobs. i'm not going to be part of the political class in washington, d.c. i have the skills to disrupt the old order and bring about a new cultu culture. >> do you feel that you have been unfairly labeled an establishment candidate in what is now becoming an outsider insurgent year? i think most people would say you're in the establishment wing. do you think that's true? do you think it's unfair? >> look, all i know is that i have the most proven conservative reform record of anybody on that stage last night. and i also am the only person that had business...

Want to vote for in the primary, it gaye all of these candidates an opportunity to have a mutual enemy. and i think it worked for all the candidates, in particular, i think it worked for ted cruz. it started with marco rubio, who took on the media. and then cruz carried the torch and the others followed and i think it gave cruz a terrific debate tonight. >> david, let's talk about the people up there on the stage more specifically, aside from bashing the media as a whole and cnbc in particular, who stood out to you. was it ted cruz? marco rubio, chris christie? >> all three of the guys you jus...

Want to vote for in the primary, it gave all of these candidates an opportunity to have a mutual enemy. and i think it worked for all the candidates, in particular, i think it worked for ted cruz. it started with marco rubio, who took on the media. and then cruz carried the torch and the others followed and i think it gave cruz a terrific debate tonight. >> david, let's talk about the people up there on the stage more specifically, aside from bashing the media as a whole and cnbc in particular, who stood out to you. was it ted cruz? marco rubio, chris christie? >> all three of the guys you jus...

7% and fifth in every state but i'm going to be the establishment candidatened i think it hit nicole this morning, there may not be an established candidate. it may be trump and carson. we're almost in november. >> i think they're feeling the sense of urgency. i think they're all going to alpha male each other to death and maybe a little chaotic but somebody's got to go. if the establishment wing, somebody's got to go graph it. al hunt you wrote in bloomberg view, the cruz-rubio face off.

There's a lot of fluidity still in this race. the thing that strikes me -- >> a ben carson is going to be the nominee of the republican party? you think he's more substantiative? >> this is what strikes me about this race -- >> ben carson? >> no, no, no. ben carson's people are very different than trump. so when candidates, when the field is winnowed, and it will, people are going to go different places. so, all of -- you know, trump's supporters aren't the same as ben carson's supporters. so, like i said, there's still going to be a lot of movement in this race. but i go to your point, chris,...