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Control, get this, since the civil war. joining me, nbc news digital reporter shannon pettypiece and editor charles ear coie cook. charlie, what's your big takeaway from last night? >> it's easy to overread state results. they're aimed at state issues and the state capital, not washington national issues or county elections on the county seat. so it's easy to overinterpret it. going into yesterday in terms of kentucky what i would have said is if the republican governor matt bevin loses, it would be despite the fact that he's a republican and in president trump's party, not because it have. an...

Losing to mitch mcconnell. matt bevin knows this is a close race. he's tried to nationalize it to a degree to make it about impeachment, in addition to state issues, to try to get voters to come up to him. republican candidates say, no, no, this is about kentucky. >> people want a governor that listens more than he talks. we have a governor that the last four years tried to tear down our teachers, tried to take them off their health care, trying to bring down every teacher, policeman and firefighter. he's trying to hide behind everyone he can. >> it's a picture of what may happen all over the ...

Doesn't want to get involved in state issues. but as you've hinted, others have speculated or talked to people who have said that perhaps he is seeing something here that he doesn't want to give democrats the upperhand, that he sees somehow that democrats could be using this as more than an issue as we're talking about it, but could be you know using it as an issue around the country. he's thinking of it as a partisan thing perhaps and doesn't want to get involved in that. but as you have started to see just in the last day, he is starting to hint that perhaps they will take something up. >> l...

Designed to help. >> well, people who have reported on this a little bit more have said that it could be a couple different things. one of the things is that he doesn't want to get involved in state issues. but as you've hinted, others have speculated or talked to people who have said that perhaps he is seeing something here that he doesn't want to give democrats the upperhand, that he sees somehow that democrats could be using this as more than an issue as we're talking about it, but could be you know using it as an issue around the country. he's thinking of it as a partisan thing perhaps and...

The integrity of our elections and a piece of legislation designed to help that effort? >> well, people who have reported on this a little bit more have said that it could be a couple different things. one of the things is that he doesn't want to get involved in state issues, state elections, that he never has wanted to do that. but as you've hinted, others have speculated or talked to people who have said that perhaps he is seeing something here that he doesn't want to give democrats the upper hand. that he sees somehow that democrats could be using this as more than an issue as we're talking...