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Was substantial, $130,000. but it was against the danger of breaking the deal and having to pay millions and millions for each utterance that might have been seen in the courts as a violation of the deal. was the threat part of the reason she signed? >> i think absolutely. when the president's fixer exerts pressure on you to sign a document, you don't ask a lot of questions. you do as you're told. and i think the american people are going to learn from her on sunday and thereafter of exactly what happened here and our position, chris, has always been the same. we want the truth and the facts t...

All those facts, it looks really terrible. it is not a surprise that mueller is trying to figure out what the answer to those questions are. if there is anything, more is going on. >> you know, there is a long pattern, sam john and richard nixon's brother, donald and billy carter. the history, often siblings who cannot resist taking advantage of their relative's power. they always embarrass the president and it seems to come with the territory and in this case, he's working inside with an official position kushner. >> this is why you talk to ethics expert is that kushner is making a decision t...

Manufacturers has to listen to off the. bus not really if you don't have another issue of course is the legal aspect that you will also not just the ethics expert the lawyers that's an incredibly important target group but he does have to get them to think about where the boundaries lie. i think he missed my. you should really be having this discussion with doctors technology and ethical ex-pats not just for a matinee but an entire workshop is my induction so i think that way we could trigger a public debate we would suppose i said this from the start it's our issue our new big issue. turned o...

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>> you can't -- >> >> it wasn't a prosecutor. it was an fbi agent. i think that's a big difference. strzok is not making any decisions about who gets indicted. that's up to mueller. and mueller is beyond reproach. >> you should at least have a rule that says when you're an investigator or an fbi agent or prosecutor, you do not send e-mails expressing extremely negative views about the person you're investigating or extremely positive views -- >> first of all, those texts -- they were not e-mails, they were sent before this investigation even began. so he wasn't investigating donald trump at th...