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Gifts to the president without permission from congress. it's called the the immaulments clause and a group of experts are suing donald trump over it. d.c. area business owners have joined the suit. saying president trump's businesses are hurting their business. a federal judge heard argument wednesday and is deciding whether it can go forward. with me is the former director of the u.s. office of government ethics joining me from d.c. to talk about this. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having us. >> ethics experts are suing the president and now a judge did needs to decide if the ca...

They may financially benefit president trump. the tax payers foot the bill for him and his family and his staff and the secret service. all staying at the resort. which many ethics experts believe could be unconstitutional. cnn's kristina leshy joins me. >> when he goes to mar-a-lago, he obviously has a secret service detail with him. that secret service detail, some members of that detail stay with him at the club, incur other costs at this very high end club. the question is, how much is -- how much tax payer money is going into his private club? we've been pressing for answer on this and he...

Flies around on chartered jets can do it legally right? it's just a question of priorities. >> that's exactly right. price of supporting a budget that cuts medical research. cutting advertising for obamacare, for navigators to help people sign up. i'll defer to ethics experts whether it's allowed but it's poor use of government resources that could go to people who really need the assistance. >> expecting that he flew from one quadrant of d.c. to another as the story. thanks. >> thank you. h.w. bush's chief of staff john sununu resigned in part due to improper use of aircraft. >> president's...

Money is appropriated by congress right? so if the hhs in trump administration wants to allocate millions of dollars so secretary flies around on chartered jets can do it legally right? it's just a question of priorities. >> that's exactly right. price of supporting a budget that cuts medical research. cutting advertising for obamacare, for navigators to help people sign up. i'll defer to ethics experts whether it's allowed but it's poor use of government resources that could go to people who really need the assistance. >> expecting that he flew from one quadrant of d.c. to another as the stor...

Media, that was a statement that was forced by the media. according to some ethics experts, when you get a multitude of aides who would attest to this effort to mislead and what the calculation was going into it and the intent, that could feed to an obstruction case. brian, i did go back and look at some of mueller's previous investigations. one of them was enron, one of his biggest cases was enron. if you look at the way that was conducted, the first way of charges were what? obstruction of charges. so we do know that this is one of the major arteries that they are pursuing. but there are man...