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Whether there were ethics issues. maybe it's something he overlooked. wouldn't he know new york law, bakari. are you sure it's an ethics issue? >> michael cohen is a bulldog attorney. he's someone you want on your team. i know michael and can say that very truthfully. the fact is, though, if you were being sued, don, you're a friend of mine, i go out and receive a confidentiality statement from the person suing you or threatening to sue you and i pay that person out of my pocket, i'm giving you as a client something very tangible, i'm paying you. you can't do that. that is crossing an ethical ...

Possibility he will have ethics issue. >> laura: ethics investigation once he gets here. >> i think testimony almost certain. >> laura: how far back will they go? >> it will be up to the committee. >> laura: there a lot of ethics investigations going on. >> unfortunately, yeah. >> laura: the senate doesn't have a fund like the house has one of those they are going it a shush fund or slush fund? >> are you talking about harassment cases? >> laura: yi. >> we are taking a look at completely changing whatever the status quo is we two weeks ago in the senate passed a measure to require mandatory tr...

Possibility he will have ethics issue. >> laura: ethics investigation once he gets here. >> i think testimony almost certain. >> laura: how far back will they go? >> it will be up to the committee. >> laura: there a lot of ethics investigations going on. >> unfortunately, yeah. >> laura: the senate doesn't have a fund like the house has one of those they are going it a shush fund or slush fund? >> are you talking about harassment cases? >> laura: yi. >> we are taking a look at completely changing whatever the status quo is we two weeks ago in the senate passed a measure to require mandatory tr...

The trouble here is that jared kushner and others involved in this investigation have not been extremely forthcoming. >> so you're -- we're out of time, but you're saying they're hiding evidence, not endearing. >> i would say in general, it's a bad move. >> not endearing. wow. all right, well, thank you both. ahead, have you ever wondered exactly where donald trump's tax returns are kept? new details on just what the irs does to protect them. also, this is important, another new ethics issue to report on who is footing the bill for trump's personal lawsuits. work. why do you do it? it's no...

The ethics issue, we keep hearing over and over from trump administration people that the president is not subject to conflict of interest laws. what about conflict of interest laws. what about kellyanne conway? >> she's clearly subject to ethics laws, and clearly violated them here. the rules and laws are very clear that you can't use an official position to benefit a private interest. that's what she did here. it's clear-cut. and it sends the wrong message. and frankly, the initial statement that she was counseled, we thought that was pretty inadequate, because usually that means somebody ex...