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Many problems because of unemployment and the economy. by the time you get to their ethics problems -- i with a hasten to add on the republican side you have senator ensign embroiled in a tawdry scandal, senator vittor of louisiana, his opponent i did some consulting for so i have some bias there. also involved in aettics scandal. neither party has a monopoly on virtue. >> i have to say, i'm very impressed by paul, because a lot of democrats who are in tough competitive districts would love to see both congress members rangel and waters resign very, very quickly, and a lot of folks on the righ...

Has that been vingdy indicated by the fact that he slinked away seeing the public resistance? >> i want to talk about maxine waters, charlie rangel, both facing charges of violating congressional ethics. should they step aside for the good of the democratic party? >> heck no. i'm a dissenter on this. >> you think they should go to trial and play it out in trial? >> you bet. you bet. >> wow! >> they are entitled to a defense. we heard the charges against them, they are very serious, and they are troubling. but they have a right to defend themselves. for goodness sakes, if an accused terrorist h...

Own ethics problems. can republicans make this stake in the same way that democrats seem to make the quote culture of corruption work against republicans in 2006? >> i think republicans would be followish. they should just shut up. a bipartisan ethics committee. let the process go forward. there are plenty of congressmen in both parties empirical and arrogant. mark foley. everybody says, i went back and looked at the polls. they were exactly as bad for republicans the day before the foley scandal hit on september 28th as they were the next week and as the final vote was. democrats going to los...

The swamp and we did. we have sweeping ethics reform in the congress and personal respect in this section. having these people makes us sad about the course of events but we have to unhold the highest standard and none of our personalities is more important than that. bill: juxtapose that are rangel and now waters and what comes of this, karl? >> the problem for the democrats is that it's not just these two individuals with their ethics problems. the standing of congress and public opinion is very low as is the standing of both speaker pelosi and harry reid and that's because they've done two ...

Republicans don't have their own ethics problems. can republicans make this stake in the same way that democrats seem to make the quote culture of corruption work against republicans in 2006? >> i think republicans would be followish. they should just shut up. a bipartisan ethics committee. let the process go forward. there are plenty of congressmen in both parties empirical and arrogant. mark foley. everybody says, i went back and looked at the polls. they were exactly as bad for republicans the day before the foley scandal hit on september 28th as they were the next week and as the final vot...