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>> an ethics procedure was set up it up. another one on thursday. everyone here should let the procedure operate. >> what is the likely outcome? >> we will see, andrea. i don't know. i don't know. we will see on thursday. as i understand it, there will be a spelling out of something on thursday. so let's wait and see. >> but one conclusion that is almost inescapable, it would not be going to this public level if the committee members including his own colleagues, but that committee has -- the democrats who have known him -- known him so well, it wouldn't get to this level if there were not som...

Sensitive about is the question that was closest to the real sensitive point, which is is he afraid of losing his job. one way or the other, either at the polls or because of his colleagues putting pressure on him, he could, in fact, lose his job. that's why there's been discussions privately about how he may handle this behind the scenes so this does not come out. it was nancy pelosi who said they want to drain the swamp. they don't want ethics to be an issue. look at the low esteem that congress has held at the moment. you have enough of this only to have it exacerbated by somebody who could...

That was closest to the real sensitive point, which is is he afraid of losing his job. one way or the other, either at the polls or because of his colleagues putting pressure on him, he could, in fact, lose his job. that's why there's been discussions privately about how he may handle this behind the scenes so this does not come out. it was nancy pelosi who said they want to drain the swamp. look at the low esteem that congress has held at the moment. you have enough of this only to have it exacerbated by somebody who could be a real figure for republicans around the country. >> here's an odd ...